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Topic: Pro-choice is pro-abortion?
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:: Kholie36
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Today, in a conversation between my friends and I, the topic of abortion came up. One of my friends said that they thought being pro-choice was just a nicer way of saying pro-abortion. I can see why she said that, I mean saying pro-choice does sort of sound like you are okay with abortion. What do you think?
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Post: #662627  , Tue 3 Jul 12, 9:36PM |
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:: Gaykidd
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I totally agree
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Post: #662628 , Tue 3 Jul 12, 9:38PM |
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Pro-choice means you support a woman's right to choose life or abortion. Which basically means, yes, you're okay with abortion.
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Post: #662629 , Tue 3 Jul 12, 9:39PM |
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Not necessarily. You can be against abortion, but still think that they have the right to choose, even if you don't like it.
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Post: #662631 , Tue 3 Jul 12, 9:45PM |
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Well like Britany said, you can not like it but still support pro-choice. Though I doubt it happens often.
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Post: #662635 , Tue 3 Jul 12, 10:00PM |
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Pro-choice ≠ pro-abortion.
Pro-choice means that if a woman gets pregnant accidentally and can't afford the baby or take care of it, she can use abortion IF she absolutely has to as a last resort, for the good of the baby and herself and family. At least, that's what it is to me.
I don't want women constantly getting abortions, or getting them at all, but, sometimes it's for the better and has to be done. I don't want to see a kid go to a bad parent or broken home.
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Post: #662639 , Tue 3 Jul 12, 10:14PM |
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I agree with Weeird. As much as I hate abortion, if the woman has no other choice I'd rather see the baby go peacefully then grow up in a broken home.
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Post: #662642 , Tue 3 Jul 12, 10:19PM |
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Pro-Choice is not Pro-abortion. Pro-choice means you believe a woman has the right to abort her baby if she so wishes. Not all pro-choicers believe abortion is right, but they realize the woman who is carrying the fetus should have the right to make their own decisions. The way I see pro-ABORTION would be someone who encourages abortion or someone who sees abortion as the best choice for anyone who is pregnant. I am pro-choice and I also see nothing wrong with abortion, but I do not consider myself "pro-abortion." In general, pro-lifers and pro-choicers really only argue about whether abortion should be legal or not, not whether it's right, so no, pro-choice is not pro-abortion.
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Post: #662651 , Tue 3 Jul 12, 10:34PM |
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Although narrow minded, I can see where that connection would be made. However, that would be like saying someone who believes in marriage equality only believes gay people should marry. Pro-choice people believe in all options for a woman, including, but not limited to abortion.
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Post: #662663 , Tue 3 Jul 12, 11:36PM |
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:: ash2342
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I don't agree with abortion but I do believe that a women should have the right to get one if it is truly needed.
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Post: #662673 , Wed 4 Jul 12, 1:04AM |
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Kayla explained it pretty good. 
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Post: #662680 , Wed 4 Jul 12, 1:29AM |
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:: darkless
:: QA7 Taking responsibility | |
A woman(or trans man or genderqueer person)'s body is theirs. I'm pro-choice, but I think if there's a better way to handle it, it's a better option, but it's not my right to put my views on someone else. I think if birth control and safe sex practices were used more it wouldn't be such an issue. Also adoption is a nice option. I'd also just like to put this here: http://www.thedailyshow.com/wa...2012/bro-choice
There's a major issue when men are forcing their views on women's bodies, another great example of this: http://www.freep.com/article/2...-Byrum-abortion
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Post: #662691 , Wed 4 Jul 12, 2:25AM |
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:: javierman
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My interpretation is that you have the choice between abortion and adoption, not just the latter. I think abortion is there so that a woman doesn't have a limitation on choices she can make for her unborn baby.
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Post: #662725 , Wed 4 Jul 12, 3:42AM |
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Well, I can see how it might be looked at that way, though it isn't strictly true. Agreeing with a wide set of beliefs does not mean that we meet each one with positive approval.
Personally, I'm pro-choice and don't like the idea of abortion. Yet I respect women's rights to do it, and I know that under a number of circumstances I might well be in the position to chose abortion for myself. Does that mean I'm ok with it or pro-abortion? No, it does not.
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Post: #662773 , Wed 4 Jul 12, 10:09AM |
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Pro-choice means you support a woman's basic right to do what she wants with her own body, to not let herself be dictated by a government or a psychotic religious right. Pro-choice protects women and their freedom. I'm someone who believes in the journey of the spirit, soul mates, etc. So if you're a woman who was raped, won't give birth safely, or are simply not ready to raise a child (unplanned mistakes happen, get over it) then that human spirit will come into the world through you again at some other time and place when you're ready or willing.
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Edit: natureboy93, Wed 4 Jul 12, 4:50PM
Post: #662819 , Wed 4 Jul 12, 4:46PM |
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Everyone should be able to do what they choose to with their own body, and so from this view point I am pro-choice.
For me, being pro-choice in terms of the abortion debate means supporting the provision of safe abortions; not supporting abortions.
If people's right to choose what they do to their own body is taken from them by law makers, they still have the ability to make their own choice. The law won't stop everyone. The point I am trying to bring in is this: In places where abortion is illegal, ABORTIONS STILL HAPPEN. They have to be performed in secret, which often means in unsterilised conditions by unqualified people. No one should have to resort to dangerous methods to terminate pregnancy, risking injury, infection and death.
No matter what someone's personal or religious views on abortion are, they need to recognise that criminalising abortion will not prevent it.
Abortion should be legal in order to keep people safe and healthy.
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Post: #663095 , Thu 5 Jul 12, 10:31AM |
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Nobody likes the idea of abortions. There's no one in the world who goes around saying, "I think abortions shouldn't be a big deal, and should just happen all the time, as much as possible." Pro-choice people fall in different places on the scale from "I really can't stand the idea of abortions and if I had it my way no one would ever have them, but I don't feel like I have the right to tell others what to do", to, "People can do whatever they want with their bodies and there's nothing wrong with that." But no one is actually in favour of increasing the number of abortions. Just access to safe and legal ones.
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Post: #663115 , Thu 5 Jul 12, 12:45PM |
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Well... they arent quite the same. While I don't like the thought of abortion, I feel that it's nessesary. I believe that women should be able to choose what they do with their bodies. It's simply not right for the goverment to do it for them.
I also look at the issue of rape and underage pregnancy (I mean really young, like under 14). The goverment can't give people special right's based on age and circumstance. Even self defense is a shody excuse (not that it's always an excuse)in the eyes of the law.
And if a woman is raped, how would she prove it? A rape test, at least a month after the fact? It just isn't possible.
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Post: #663130 , Thu 5 Jul 12, 4:03PM |
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It is pro-abortion, in some ways.
Being pro-choice means you are "okay with abortion" in the sense that "abortion should be legal and people should be allowed to get them." It doesn't say anything about whether you like abortion, but laws aren't concerned with your personal distaste for something you believe should be legal.
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Edit: Merovingian, Thu 5 Jul 12, 6:09PM
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