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:: JayD
:: QA8 High Householder
I was on ok cupid this morning surfing through cute guys when a blurb caught my eye. It read "If you'd be interested in a date, please note I'm only attracted to more masculine men that have their act together. It's just a preference, but I just don't find very feminine men that can't support themselves very attractive."

Seems to attach being feminine to financially unstable. I approached him on the topic and he switched his profile to say, "I'm only attracted to more masculine men and guys that have their act together. It's just a preference, but I don't find very feminine men attractive, as well as men who can't support themselves."

So, what do you think of the issues surrounding the inner gay communities discriminatory views of feminine gay men? And what about statements like these on dating sites?

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  Post: #658626 Link to this post, Wed 20 Jun 12, 10:33PM
:: XlobX
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It does seem like the super-stereotypical gay couple (I'm talking as in porn-super-stereotypical) sort of transfers the gender roles and sexism of stereotypical heterosexual relationships onto itself. There is a dominant guy who is the 'man', and the submissive guy who is the 'woman'.

I expect that, therefore, any prejudice against feminine guys in the gay community originates from this idea of the homosexual couple mimicking the sexism of the heterosexual couple.
  Post: #658629 Link to this post, Wed 20 Jun 12, 10:44PM
:: capricious
:: QA5 Having the neighbours round
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That sterotype kinda bothers me when people use it in a rude way..there is no 'woman' in the relationship. Thats the point -_-
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  Post: #658630 Link to this post, Wed 20 Jun 12, 10:47PM
:: Avi345
:: QA7 Taking responsibility
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I mean, I understand the whole being more attracted to "masculine" men. But what that guy said about more feminine men being unstable? That's really messed up...
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  Post: #658631 Link to this post, Wed 20 Jun 12, 10:50PM
:: AdorkableJ13
:: QA4 A spot of tea please, Alfred!
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That is pretty discriminatory
I remember back then when i was with a guy, my friend commented that i was the submissive one in the relationship (although i don't look the part), but i was doing fairly better than he was when it came to academics and helping out my family along with him and me
i don't really like these types of stereotypes and only wish to just live life without them
  Post: #658635 Link to this post, Wed 20 Jun 12, 10:58PM
:: Puff
:: QA5 Having the neighbours round
I think playing with the stereotype can only be a bit of fun if it is only in jest and stuff, but considering all effeminate men as financially unstable with their acts not together is beyond ridiculous....

@Xandra: Emmm... I know I'm usually the more effeminate guy, often by quite a bit but I'd view myself as the woman in a relationship most of the time... Emoticon: Confused :s

However I think this is being taken wrong...

"please note I'm only attracted to more masculine men that have their act together"

"It's just a preference, but I don't find very feminine men attractive, as well as men who can't support themselves"

I think he is just saying that he doesn't like feminine men and he doesn't like men who can't support themselves, I think he isn't linking the two but rather stating two things he doesn't like in men which is fair enough Emoticon: Smile :) It may have just been mis-worded to begin with... However obviously if it was intentional kill him with the fire >.<
  Edit: Puff, Wed 20 Jun 12, 11:01PM
Post: #658637 Link to this post, Wed 20 Jun 12, 11:00PM
:: capricious
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Oh Emoticon: Smile :) I just dont like when people insist that someone HAS to 'be the girl.' I think its a personal thing.
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  Post: #658651 Link to this post, Wed 20 Jun 12, 11:32PM
:: Zolin
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I think in most (gay) relationships one is always more femenine than the other.

But I never understand what "being the girl" means. Cause I also know many cases in which the femme one is the top so...

Makes you wonder
  Post: #658654 Link to this post, Wed 20 Jun 12, 11:34PM
:: capricious
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Yeah, I mean most of the time one guy will be more feminine than the other. But that doesnt make him a girl...and it doesnt have anything to do with ability to support oneself O_o
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  Post: #658655 Link to this post, Wed 20 Jun 12, 11:37PM
:: Embraceurself
:: QA9 Grand Elder
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@Tom - To me it sounded like he said "I just don't find very feminine men that can't support themselves very attractive," at first, then once he was called out on in he changed it to "I don't find very feminine men attractive, as well as men who can't support themselves." Maybe he meant the latter, but I think the first quote is still offensive, if he meant it the way it sounded.
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  Post: #658739 Link to this post, Thu 21 Jun 12, 1:36AM
:: atomuskus
:: QA7 Taking responsibility
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That is one of my favorite things I hear constantly from straight people, "Who is the woman in the relationship?" To which my usual response is "You are!"
  Post: #660669 Link to this post, Wed 27 Jun 12, 8:14AM
:: jimmyvon789
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I am less attracted to feminine men, though that's because they're more like women, which I'm much less attracted to. Unstable is just bull.
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No, I don't know what that means.
  Post: #660671 Link to this post, Wed 27 Jun 12, 8:28AM
:: Xeffy
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people equate feminine mostly based on appearence and personality. in the appearence department long hair is considered feminine and many people think long hair does not belong on men in the work place because its "un-proffesional"

I hate how I look when my hair is cut short... and my boss made me cut my hair, now i have to go through the awkward stage of growing it out, AGAIN!
  Post: #661244 Link to this post, Thu 28 Jun 12, 5:09PM
:: xdarkdatax
:: QA4 A spot of tea please, Alfred!
Well, in a way I'm a little more "feminine" than not, HOWEVER, to be called a "girl" or a "woman" would bother me. The point is, I am not a girl/woman. And I do like more masculine men than me (taller, stronger, etc) but, to equate that to being unstable as well? False. I have moments of instability, but, for the most part I am considered a stable academic with no attachments to human existence (hence the partial instability)

but, as usual, the idea of homosexuality is summed up to a more heterosexual appearance with the more "submissive" of the two being considered the "woman". It is annoying, since I tend to be the more submissive one, but I have a mind of my own and I am definitely not a girl!
  Post: #661303 Link to this post, Thu 28 Jun 12, 11:15PM
:: Volke
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i think its a little too far to say that theyre unstable (its kinda far), but im not attracted to fem guys either, mostly because i have no interest in being the masculine one at all. it could possibly be that he dislikes flamboyant people, but i still think that isn't how he should have said it :/
  Post: #661368 Link to this post, Fri 29 Jun 12, 3:53AM
:: indielibra
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Well some people like to have that type of stereotypical relationship. And the statement about submissive guys not having their stuff together is a little disturbing. The way I see things, I want equality in the relationship. I am pretty even-keeled when it comes to feminine and masculine attributes, and I think I would want someone who is a good balance too.
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  Edit: indielibra, Fri 29 Jun 12, 4:05PM
Post: #661439 Link to this post, Fri 29 Jun 12, 4:00PM
:: LenChan
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well as a more submissive guy I have got my life going pretty well got a job on the verge of a promotion going to school, my ex who was a more dom type didn't have a job was completely unable to support himself I was the one making money I was the one paying for a place to live and I would have been the more feminine one though I don't appear to be very feminine.
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  Post: #661443 Link to this post, Fri 29 Jun 12, 4:14PM
:: billy9luisrock
:: QA1 Just in
I think everyone have their own opinion, personaly I prefer more masculin people, but I do not despreciate or attack femenine gay gays. This topic is kind of difficult, because eventhought we all are a community we still have some differences.
  Post: #661827 Link to this post, Sun 1 Jul 12, 8:24AM
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