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:: Xeffy
:: QA9 Grand Elder | |
Turning 18 made me realise something. I'll always be innocent like a the way a child is innocent. Its kindof like how they say your only as old as you act.
In a sense everyone either chooses that they are or are not innocent. It all depend on the standards you set but even beyond those limits there are things you will always be innocent towards.
maybe acting the way I do makes me Naiive but atleast im not a jerk.
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Post: #650797  , Mon 21 May 12, 7:28PM |
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Innocence is just an item that can be cloaked 
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Post: #650798 , Mon 21 May 12, 7:32PM |
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Clearly you have had a fairly sheltered life. I'm sorry but I simply cant agree with you. I have a friend who was raped at 14, do you think she chose to loose her innocence? No! She is the most cynical person I know. For some of us yes, innocence is something we can choose, but it is also something which can be stolen. Or given for that matter.
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Post: #650809 , Mon 21 May 12, 8:52PM |
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:: Lia47
:: QA9 Grand Elder | |
I dunno. Obviously she has reason to be cynical. Very cynical. If i were her, I just wouldn't be able to handle it. But i don't think that means she'll never find innocence and goodness in the world again. We're all still fairly young, and these wounds have a lot of time to heal. for instance, my grandfather saw dozens of his friends shot dead in Korea (and trust me, he remembers in some pretty horrible detail), and I've never met a man with a friendlier disposition. You should see him play with my baby cousins. Anyway, I don't think anyone should give up on innocence just yet.
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Post: #650817 , Mon 21 May 12, 9:02PM |
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:: Inch
:: QA6 Livin' it up! | |
Gonna have to go off on a limb from both of you here and say innocence isn't a choice at all. Believe me, I've tried to be less innocent for a good chunk of my life. Doesn't work in the slightest.
I will never be afraid again
I will keep on fighting 'till the end
I can walk on water
I can fly
I will keep on fighting 'till I die
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Post: #650821 , Mon 21 May 12, 9:17PM |
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I think that if we were to find our innocence again later in life, it wouldnt be the same. Once you are exposed to some things in life, then there is no turning back. Sure you can regain confidence in society, but there is no way you can go back to believing that the world is a wonderful place, where everyone means well and everyone has a fair go.
42. That is all.
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Post: #650824 , Mon 21 May 12, 9:26PM |
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My innocence burned in hell and there are certain things you can't do and still be considered "innocent". If you try to pretend you're still innocent you're just lying to yourself which will get you nowhere. I'm not innocent and it took me awhile to come to terms with that but I finally got to be who I was once I stopped trying to fool everyone into thinking I was innocent and fooling myself.
To see us dance is to hear our hearts speak- Hopi Indian saying
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Post: #650826 , Mon 21 May 12, 9:31PM |
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^ Same here, but Lizzie you know that.
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Post: #650827 , Mon 21 May 12, 9:34PM |
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Well, what does it mean to be "innocent"? Is the opposite of "innocent", "cynical"? I disagree with that. I am not cynical, but I am also not innocent. But I am going with the way I define "innocence", and clearly it is not the same as the way other people define it here.
So how do you define it? And why is it so important? Loss of innocence is both necessary and not necessarily negative. It reminds me of people who want to be "born-again virgins". Why is it so important? Isn't it all a sham?
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Post: #650830 , Mon 21 May 12, 9:43PM |
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:: Lia47
:: QA9 Grand Elder | |
I don't think you should try to force yourself to be "innocent", I just think that innocence doesn't have to disappear from your life when you grow up. Ever hang out with a toddler for a few hours? My little cousin James told me this joke a few days ago:
"Knock knock!"
"who's there"
"Peach!"
"peach who?"
"Peach I glad I didn't say banana?!"
After that, we chased after some imaginary monsters for about half an hour. There's been a lot of shit going on in my life recently, but whenever I see him, I can forget about all of it and just play. That's what I mean when I say you can be innocent again.
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Edit: Lia47, Mon 21 May 12, 10:32PM
Post: #650839 , Mon 21 May 12, 10:32PM |
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Aww sounds lovely.
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Post: #650840 , Mon 21 May 12, 10:35PM |
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Oh, yes, in that sense, of course. There's no reason you can't do something completely innocent even after the initial "loss of innocence". I'm not even sure if I believe in a life-changing "loss of innocence" for everyone. It's a popular topic in literature, but can we pinpoint the moment in our lives when we "lost our innocence"? For some people, yes, there is a specific moment and it's very obvious. For others, not so much. But it doesn't mean that you can't still appreciate innocence or do something innocent.
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Post: #650841 , Mon 21 May 12, 10:36PM |
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Yeah I agree with Dominykas. You can do something that's innocent but you don't have to be innocent. Like I watch Disney movies but I'm not innocent.
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Post: #650844 , Mon 21 May 12, 10:53PM |
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Despite other opinions, and I do respect them for voicing it, I do not think your naive Xeff. Striving to keep ones innocence an admirable goal in life.
Innocence is a very vaugue term to start with therefore each an every one of us has an slightly deferent view on what it is. I looked on a few sites on the definition of what innocense is and a common theme I found was to be pure, free from moral wrong, etc. The way I see it as long as you stick to what is right with all your heart your innocense is yours to keep no matter what trials in life stand in your way. Thats just my opinion.
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Post: #650887 , Tue 22 May 12, 1:35AM |
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:: Xeffy
:: QA9 Grand Elder | |
although I in no way support rape, I dont visualize it as a loss of innocence. Though I havent been raped I spent a couple of years in contact with a pedophile when I was 13. We didnt ever touch but we did some 'things' yet I dont let that bother me. then again I talked to this man specifically because he was a pedophile.
Edit: @Callum: My life has been far from sheltered.
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Edit: Xeffy, Tue 22 May 12, 2:47AM
Post: #650901 , Tue 22 May 12, 2:43AM |
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to be honest. I avoid people who act like toddlers and who blush at every little thing, or whose eyes go wide at the mention of a vice. Those people annoy me, because what they percieve the world to be, is a lie.
I am strong because I know weakness.• I am compassionate because I have experienced suffering. •I am alive because I am a fighter.• I am wise because I have been foolish.• I can laugh because I have known sadness.• I can love because I have known loss
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Post: #650992 , Tue 22 May 12, 3:45PM |
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:: Xeffy
:: QA9 Grand Elder | |
Innocence is life's greates Illusion, but even outside of it's magic... the entire world Is a lie. For all you know the world is something you invented and when you die the world ceases to exist, anyone could be the Demiurge even if they dont even know it. There are to many things that are unknown to understand the difference between the truths and lies of reality.
If you seek answers you will find them but how many of them will ne true is unknown. ontop of that how many of the questions you are asking are even based in reality?
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Edit: Xeffy, Tue 22 May 12, 5:34PM
Post: #651017 , Tue 22 May 12, 5:32PM |
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i honestly dont 100% understand this "innocence" thing. i mean i sorta get it. i guess i could innocence is when your little everythings simpe and then you loose ur innocence cuz u figure out how horrible everything is out there. or you do something horrible urself.
one thing tho i think when u loose ur virginity to someone u love i dnt think thats a lost of innocene. i hear ppl say it is but i dnt see how it is so. if it happens another way yes but not if u love the person.
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Post: #651160 , Wed 23 May 12, 3:15AM |
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I don't fully get it either. The way some people tell it, "innocence" is "not knowing about sex". Well then, innocence is ignorance.
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Post: #651164 , Wed 23 May 12, 3:28AM |
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:: zee_to_a
:: QA4 A spot of tea please, Alfred! | |
What about how innocence is just the purity of one's ideals? I knew this girl who's family wasn't...great, I'll put it at that. She cussed and such, but there was this "wholesome-ness" of her philosophical views and etc. So innocence is like one being exposed to a myraid of negative influences and may take a vice or two, they still retain a positive view of morals and mortailty.
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Edit: zee_to_a, Wed 23 May 12, 4:15AM
Post: #651176 , Wed 23 May 12, 4:14AM |
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