So...I am bisexual. And I am a Republican. Think what you will, but I suppose that I am trying to prove a point. It is to show that not all GOP members are asshats. Anyone who knows me would tell you that I am not a bigot, like many Republicans are made out to be. I know that there are plenty of GOP members that are total asshats, but the fact of the matter is that many of them are open-minded, educated, kind, well-spoken, sweethearts. I know so many. Santorum, Bush, Gingrich, Perry...yes, they are all asshats, but they have become the symbols of the GOP. What happened to Lincoln? He was a Republican. Hell, he founded the Republican Party. And I know that many people would disagree with me on this point, but Reagan was a wonderful president. He had a lot of guts, and he gave America a good image in my opinion. I know plenty of Republicans who are wonderful people who are educated enough to realize that there are many more important things to worry about than who someone wants to sleep with. They know how to mind their own damn business. So yes. I am a Bisexual Republican. Say and think what you will, but I felt that that needed to be said.
I dunno why but I can't stop thinking about that one American Dad episode related to gay republicans. God I loved that episode... In any case both Democrats and Republicans have good ideas and I believe they both have very valid points which makes picking a side very difficult for me but thankfully I won't have to for another 2 years so yay me! Lol, anyway, I guess all I really got to say then is more power to you, nothin' wrong with being LGBTQ and Republican in my book. =P
Although I definitely lean Democrat personally, I respect the fact that you are not afraid to be proud and stick up for what you believe in.
Though you are in the minority when it comes to the LGBT community and political views I think it's cool that you don't allow yourself to be pressured into conforming to the majority when you don't agree with it.
"So paint it black and take it back. Let's shout out loud and clear." -"Welcome To The Black Parade" by My Chemical Romance
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Like Saied, I'm glad you are proud of what you believe in. I personally agree with democratic views and I have extremely liberal beliefs, but I don't think republicans are "asshats." To me, it's not WHAT one believes in that makes them an asshat, it's HOW they present it and if they force their views on others.
I don't think there's a problem with being a republican even if you are LGBT. It's when people start saying "My views are the ONLY right ones, it can't be any other way" when I start to get mad, and that person could have any party preference: Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, etc...
You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you're all the same.
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I was thinking about the last bit of your post- 'they know better than to worry about who people sleep with... they know to mind their own damn business'.
Isn't that basically 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'? Correct me if I'm wrong here.
I used to feel like that for a long time- I don't want anyone meddling with my sex life one way or the other- I just want to get on with it and make the world go away. And I can see the benefits of DADT (sure it's been debated countless times on here before, sorry). But ultimately it's crucial, but crucial, to have an active LGBT+ movement which DOES care about what people do and DOES seek to make a difference. It might sound repressive but it isn't really.
Anyway, I certainly don't think you're an 'ass'... you're entitled to your views, even if I don't agree with 'em.
No. With all due respect, it is completely different from Don't Ask Don't Tell. Don't Ask, Don't Tell is something that views homosexuality as something negative. The people I mentioned don't and they completely disregard it because they understand how insignificant it is. There is a world of difference.
What you also have to understand is that there's a difference between raising awareness and having people barge in on your own personal affairs. In Texas, two men were spied on, and sent to jail for having anal sex. There is a difference between that, and the LGBT community raising awareness about itself to show everyone else that we're really all the same. When I said that people don't care, and don't meddle in business, I was talking about how they don't care, and they realize that there are more important things than sexual orientation.
And I do appreciate that. I disagree with oyu, but I also respect your opinion.
Personally, I don't like to recognize myself with any particular party. I feel that it would give me an excuse for the knowledge that I am lacking in the political world, and it is dis-concerning to me whether someone knows about my ignorance (because there is no such thing as a stupidity, just like our teachers taught us the 'no stupid question' *rule* in our "rudimentary" schooling, we are constantly applying ourselves to the unknown) or not...;/
I can't stress how ugly it looks to state the fact that you 'respect' another person’s opinion after you blatantly disrespected it, so I will clarify my opinion with the post-knowledge info that I do not 'respect' this.
I couldn't respond to the statement about "it might sound repressive"..., I would like him to elaborate; not bite one of our new members in the neck with a 'passive aggressive' statement.
If you would like to know, the law that enforces such "deviate sexual intercourse" (which is actually how it looks on paper) is upheld by the State of Texas, and some of their conservative Republican views... and it is these views that should be (yes this is only my opinion) ‘SMITED’ by the big black 'hand' (operative with-) of the law! I "do" hope to offend this crowd (which doesn't seem to contain anyone here, as we are all level headed individuals), because they have offended me; as my stay in Texas was not only offending to my weight (sorry that was uncalled for but I actually did love the food that much, which was actually not too offending in retrospect… BEST TEX MEX EVA!!), but also to my morality; as an individual with sexual preference and a disability (tisk tisk)! As much as our law does suck, the law in Texas is outdated and illegally/allegedly corrupt, and it is ruining our country! Get a new pair of shoes Texas, it's a new century.
But now that I am done rambling, I don't disagree with republican gay people, I just feel that is sad to see one of my brothers (in truth and spirit) who has admitted his differences, surround himself around ppl who can't find it in their heart to accept YOU!! If I could send that person a message, it would be... I love you!! I know your pain so much that it actually hurts!!!!! My family is republican and my mother is very conservative. It pains me to see her in such ignorance, and I wish to see her liberated from it one day. Not to say that Republicans are all like this! There are actually some liberals that I would like to see put on some clothes and get back in the boat (leaving uncle cid behind).
If there was one last thing I would say, indirectly quoting Kings of Leon (don’t smack me, it was more inspiration “for the analogy” than anything else), the water that you grew up drinking is not poison, it is just misunderstood because of its taste. There is an underline hatred between liberals and republicans right now… call it a Cold Civil War… and we are the next generation… we can’t afford to let it blind us.
If this embed does not work, then understand that I was trying to convey my feelings of how two different parties should coexist; realizing that they will only realize the others view at the end of their separate journeys. Empathy is powerful, but not always attainable..
In general, I despise the two-party system and wish people who did not have to confine to party standards had a chance at winning an election, but alas, that is not going to happen any time soon. I vote Democrat because it most closely matches my views but it is not a perfect match. My true political views lie somewhere in the middle, as do those of many. But sadly, moderates, centrists, libertarians, etc. don't have much of a voice or chance in American politics.
Of course not all Democrats and not all Republicans are the same. And of course there are other issues besides those relating to LGBT people. But I simply don't see myself as ever being able to vote for someone who is anti-gay. That isn't something I could compromise on.
Honestly, I don't think I really know anyone who agrees with any politcal party 100%. I'm more on the liberal side, however there are a lot of conservative ideas that I agree with. Thankfully, in Canada we have more than two parties to choose from so we're not quite so limited. To be honestly though, I really just hate politicians.
It is not that I surround myself with such people. I simply did that because of my economic views, which I personally feel that, at this point in time, with our failing economy, fiscal issues outweigh the rest. Can you possibly fathom how many special interest groups there are? I can respect the fact that they are fighting for what is rightfully theirs, but times are tough, and at this point in time, when our economy is dangling on a thread, some things are just going to have to wait. And I don't understand how it is disrespectful to simply state your own personal opinion, and then say that you respect their opinion. There is a massive difference between agreeing and respecting. I am sorry if what I am about to say sounds offensive, I really am, and please understand that that is not my intention, but the fact is that our egos get in the way of seeing that sometimes. And what pains me is to see how far from the truth you are. It really isn't the majority of Republicans. Most of them are very level headed and clear thinking, educated, kind, non-bigoted individuals. I am sorry that you live in such a family. My grandmother is the same way, but I will have you know that the majority of Republicans are not psycho Christians and are simply fiscal conservatives, who have too much intelligence to give a rat's ass about who anyone wants to sleep with.
I understand your frustration with the two-party system and association, Really, I do, and I share a lot of your reservations, and I would have wanted to register as an Independent. That would have been wonderful, but as an Independent, I cannot vote, so that's an issue. I was willing to compromise. There is nothing wrong with compromise. That's what EVERYTHING is: compromise. You can't always get what you want. I am kinda conservative. More so than liberal. I simply believe in a free market system more than one in which there is more government intervention. That's just me. If you want to discuss that, please feel free to ask me to, but right now, I will not continue to do so.
I can't really say that I hate politicians. It's an important job, and it involves a lot of moral compromise, which not too many people are willing to do. We brush it off, and are not willing to really accept it, but really, where would we be without them? Nothing would get done. Trust me. Anarchy isn't as wonderful as it is made out to be. There is no one person who believes in every single aspect of what any one political party. Again I say:Compromise! Everything is about how much you're willing to give up for the big picture. It's healthy, actually, because it really helps you objectively think about what is REALLY important to you.
But that's just me. It's all just me.
DADT "Don't ask" policy was created to protect our soldiers from prejudice in the armed forces at the time, and this is what I believe might have been a precursor to LGBT... I don't see how DADT is correlated to the Texas case, if that was where you were getting. Could you please explain why DADT is so putrid to you?
Having strong political views will only continue to hurt the people on the other side of them. I was just merely stating that it might have sounded slightly incredulous for you to claim respect for his opinion, when you negated it as an argument... and that his point might have been lost altogether.
My last post was a mess, sorry.
I obviously respect Paul's opinion and right to an opinion, but it doesn't mean I agree with it.
What I hate about DADT is that it creates a very strange, 'cushioned' culture... 'you keep it quiet and so will I'. This does reduce active discrimination but it makes it very hard for members of the military to be 'themselves' and be out to their mates and workmates.
Secondly, we shouldn't need DADT to stop soldiers beating the **** from gay colleagues... we need education and awareness, especially in the service which is supposed to protect and represent the country and set a good example.
I see your point, and I don't find that DADT is "putrid" I simply don't think that it was handled properly. I understand how it was a way to protect LGBT soldiers. I do. I just think that it wasn't progressive enough. It perpetuated the negative feelings. You know?
And strong political opinions will not offend anyone who is secure with their own political opinions.
I mentioned DADT and the Texas case because they are similar in the way that it is seen in a negative way in both cases. The Texas case took it one step further though. It broke through the barriers of self impose obliviousness and actually did ask. The people I mentioned are different. They don't ask because they don't care. Not because they don't want any issues.
I do agree. We shouldn't need it. And we don't have it any more. I'm sorry, Hal. I'm a little confused. What is it that we don't agree about?
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