:: Jaden
:: QA8 High Householder | |
I have a story for everyone that leads up to the title question. It happened a few weeks(okay a month maybe) ago and well, I haven't had time to post this till now.
I work in a mens salon and we're brand new to the area so corporate sent out mailers to some areas with free coupons.
Well a guy came in to tell us how utterly offended he was at the mailers. Why? Because they have the words "Where hair mans up" on them.
He went on and on about how he lived in cali, you meet a lot of LGBT people out there, the words "man up" are offensive to the whole LGBT community, on and on about how awful and offensive these words are.
And then(this is the part I don't get) after bitching about all this wants to use the damned coupon! I'm sorry if you're that offended by something you shouldn't then be trying to use it and support said business that supposedly offended you so badly!
I wanted to deny him service but I wasn't allowed to...
So what do you guys think? Are the words "man up" offensive? If someone is so offended by something like that should they then be trying to use the offer that offended them so? Should one be allowed to deny someone service if they've been standing around going off about how offensive the offer of your place of work is?
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Post: #649442  , Tue 15 May 12, 4:47PM |
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What's the problem with manning up? It's a common phrase used like all the time, by everyone. I mean LGBT people can man up, It's not like we're all weak or super emotional all the time. I just don't see his point. If he's transgender, I might understand a bit, but otherwise... No.. Not offensive.
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Post: #649444 , Tue 15 May 12, 5:03PM |
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:: Jaden
:: QA8 High Householder | |
He might have been gay. I don't think he was trans, if so he's very far along and presented incredibly fully as male.
But more so I think he was an over sensitive, probably gay dude, who wanted more then one free haircut out of the deal.
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Post: #649445 , Tue 15 May 12, 5:09PM |
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There are very few things that are intrinsically offensive. It is true that the phrase "man up" is often used in a very, very offensive way, in fact it usually is used in that manner. However, that mailer seems to be the exact opposite in meaning, it's purpose is to break down gender barriers, not put them up.
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Post: #649450 , Tue 15 May 12, 5:44PM |
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tbh, he sounds like a freaking drama queen. and like ward said "were all not weak and emoitional wreaks" (i am... -.-) he might off been thats why he complained...... hes just sad. its not offencive!
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Post: #649454 , Tue 15 May 12, 6:59PM |
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I personally don't mind it when people say "Man up". Its just an expression really , like alot of things and shouldn't be taken offensively.
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Post: #649457 , Tue 15 May 12, 7:16PM |
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I find the phrase "man up" empty and stupid, but not offensive. Some people make it their business to be offended.
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Post: #649460 , Tue 15 May 12, 7:24PM |
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I understand what the ad was trying to do. Salons in general are usually viewed as a place for women to go so they were simply trying to appeal the male demographic.
I think when we get offended by something like this we need to take a moment to think and understand the content. He came from a different area where theu have different social norms.
Prime example where I'm from this is a friendly greeting: "How are you me ol cock"
It has nothing to do with anything below the belt or a rooster.
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Post: #649498 , Tue 15 May 12, 10:13PM |
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:: Kuuipo
:: QA10 Community Goddess | |
I don't get why people have to go out and find an offensive meaning in everything and anything.
The company obviously didn't set out to offend anyone.
Like, c'mon.
-_-
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Post: #649501 , Tue 15 May 12, 10:17PM |
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No... That's not offensive in the slightest omg. That guy needs to take a chill pill and simmer down -_-.
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Post: #649510 , Tue 15 May 12, 10:49PM |
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some people are sensative and i would try to respect how they feel. everybody will feel different about it. i dnt find the man up thing offensive, but i understand how could take it that way. trying to get a freee hair cut is just abusing it xD but if he sensear (sorry bad spelling) then i would just try to be nice about it.
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Post: #650063 , Fri 18 May 12, 5:22AM |
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I can see how someone would find that offensive, but frankly, he took that too far. I mean, it means "acquire courage" and there is nothing offensive about that.There are so many things that he could think about, and frankly, it is too much trouble to get so offended over something like that.
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Post: #650065 , Fri 18 May 12, 5:30AM |
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:: AlyxVulp
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I would be pissed as hell, mostly due to the trans thing, but also, I'm sorry, I've gone through a LOT, and I would consider myself more "man" than most people who have told me to man up.
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Post: #650066 , Fri 18 May 12, 5:31AM |
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:: Dood
:: QA6 Livin' it up! | |
Hm, maybe he was just trying to get another free haircut out of it or something, who knows? Some people do crazy things to get what they want. I mean he was either trying to get something out of it or was just plain being over-sensitive. While I do think you should have been able to deny him service I can also sort of see why you weren't. I mean a customer is a customer and it's your job to provide for said customer, no matter what. It sucks, sure, but that's life for ya'... =\
On the other hand you could have gave him a bad haircut for yelling at you, lol. Though I suppose that could've made things worse. I have a cousin who works at KFC and there was this one kid from his school who kept throwing pieces of paper at him so he took the mashed potatoes that he was eating, since he was on break at the time, and smashed it in the kids face. Long story short, the kid left and my cousin never got into trouble. Mainly cause' he wasn't caught doing it. xD
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Post: #650070 , Fri 18 May 12, 5:48AM |
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It may be that he was trained to think that every little thing is offensive. My uncle and I were driving through Arizona and he pointed out a pink truck. He said that it disgusted him. I asked him why, and he told me that it wasn't just any pink truck. It was the color of pigs, and he saw that as anti-semetic. I told him that he was over reacting, but he told me that that may be the case, but as a child, he faced unfathomably large amounts of anti-semitism. When a person is abused to such an extent, anything can be put on a person's radar as a "threat" so they go up in arms.
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Post: #650071 , Fri 18 May 12, 5:50AM |
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I guess you could argue that the phrase "man up" reinforces a heteronormative (or possibly gender-binary-normative) idea that masculinity is good and femininity is less good, and/or that all men should be manly to be "real men." And the LGBT community probably WILL be better off when and if that ceases to be a commonly accepted line of thinking. However, it's so subtle that most people don't even notice. Obvious slurs are way easier to argue against.
I, too, find it a little odd that the customer still wanted to patronize the salon and use the coupon that offended him so badly. I guess he must have had his reasons. (Maybe every other haircut place in your town is terrible?  )
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