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Topic: Good Job Obama (pro-equal marriage message)
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So, this afternoon, after watching Ellen I went to take a shower (don't judge me). I didn't bother to turn off the TV, so the news came on, and I hear that Obama announced his support of gay marriage.
Now, I do not follow politics, so I kind of had a "Huh?" reaction to it, because I just kind of assumed that it was already a fact that he did. Guess not, so here ya go, fellow Americans.
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Post: #647689  , Wed 9 May 12, 10:05PM |
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:: grum
:: QA Staff (Founder) | |
A lot of Americans in my Facebook news feed are using phrases like "I'm proud of my president". I can't imagine a similar phrase being used in the UK about a prime minister, ha. Ultimately, though, I don't think he deserves your pride on this issue. David Cameron -- who, for the highly uninformed, is the British Prime Minister -- said something very similar about gay marriage around a week ago. I'd say that most of us greeted that announcement with a general sense of approval, but definitely not pride.
Barack Obama nor David Cameron has any intention of actually making equal marriage a reality. Obama was actually very forthright about this by stating it was purely a personal view, not a political stance.
I think we should therefore have tempered reactions to both statements. Accept them as progress but understand that you'll need to trust in other people to actually deliver the goods.
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Edit: grum, Wed 9 May 12, 11:18PM
Post: #647709 , Wed 9 May 12, 11:14PM |
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I wouldn't expect those guys to make any changes any time soon but at least we have their support 
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Post: #647717 , Wed 9 May 12, 11:51PM |
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Honestly I'm impressed that president Obama supports gay marriage. I think with him saying that a lot of LGBTQ people will come out and vote for him just because he thinks everyone should be treated equal. I believe that too. I don't why people have to ostricize others because of who they choose to be with. I'm am very proud that he has said something and his supportive of this.
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Post: #647730 , Thu 10 May 12, 12:25AM |
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......Obama just guaranteed his loss in the next elections. Anyone hear Romney's statement directly after the president's speech? He supports the Republican view of marriage. Which unfourtenetly is still the higher voting count.
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Post: #647733 , Thu 10 May 12, 12:37AM |
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:: Lia47
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I disagree Grum. Sure, he's not doing all he could as president to make gay marriage a national reality, but remember; he is at the beginning of a campaign for reelection, and saying something like that could potentially be very damaging to him. And in his position (and that of David Cameron) Saying anything that COULD make someone dislike him WILL make thousands of people dislike him, so in a job that's in a lot of ways a popularity contest, saying something like that is extremely brave. That's my opinion, anyway. So yeah, I'm a little proud. I certainly wouldn't have the guts to get up in front of the world and say something so controversial.
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Post: #647807 , Thu 10 May 12, 2:54AM |
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the way i see it, Obama is playing it like how Lincoln did.
he never said he would abolish slavery, but it was well known he was against slavery.
and after the war started, he freed the slaves in the south, while allowing the border state the have slaves
(the border states were the neutral states that kept slavery, yet still wanted to be part of the Union. they were important to keep neutral, because they were right next to the capital)
this appeases those he needs on his side, while setting it up for later when he will have the full ability, and minimal resistance to his abolishment of slavery.
i think Obama wants to do the same thing, only with same-sex marriage, and without the war
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Post: #647827 , Thu 10 May 12, 3:16AM |
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I never claimed that I was 'proud' of Obama. I find it a little silly to say you're proud of the president. Proud to be an American, maybe. I just feel that it's good for him to have shown support. As far as it impacting his re-election, well we'll just have to see.
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Post: #647848 , Thu 10 May 12, 3:57AM |
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Honestly, I find the timing of this statement rather interesting. Why announce something big like this just now when he's been doing LGBT supportive things for over a year now? It seems like just a way to get independent voters to me. While it's nice and all that he's doing this stuff, I have a suspicion that he's apathetic either way.
Heck, I may be wrong, but I guess I'm just suspicious of all politicians at this point.
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Post: #647873 , Thu 10 May 12, 4:48AM |
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YAAAY OBAMA!! YAAAY GAYSS!!
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Post: #647874 , Thu 10 May 12, 4:56AM |
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Thanks to Obama for openly supporting LGBT people! Even if it wasn't as a political stance, it's still progress. I mean, hell, for the FIRST TIME in US history, our president isn't completely turned off by the idea of people of the same sex getting married.
I'll bet the westboro baptist church members just DIED after hearing this, though xD I would have LOVED to see the look on their faces. Wouldn't surprise me if they're out picketing in front of the White House sometime soon haha!
@Alyssa - I don't think he would be doing it to get votes since there are so many people in the US that are against gay marriage/gay rights. If anything, saying this would have DAMAGED his chances of winning.
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Post: #647875 , Thu 10 May 12, 5:04AM |
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@ Ryan, recent polls have been saying that approximately 50% of people in the US support gay marriage.
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Post: #647879 , Thu 10 May 12, 5:39AM |
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:: Ming97
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Let's just hope he keeps his words Maybe one day he'll legalize same-sex marriage over the states.
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Post: #647896 , Thu 10 May 12, 9:01AM |
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:: Twiggey
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I wish Julia Gilliard would say something like what Obama did I think she would stay as prime minister longer if she supported Sam sex marriage but the labour party is against so not much she can do about it.
To live is to do what makes you happy not others. If what you love is different then stand against the tide of "normality" never stop fighting for happiness.
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Post: #647913 , Thu 10 May 12, 12:23PM |
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not to say im not happy about this. BUT, isnt it odd that he's had 4 years to fully support us and he's waited until the election to actually declare it? seems like a ticket to his re-election.
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Post: #647925 , Thu 10 May 12, 2:24PM |
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:: Lia47
:: QA9 Grand Elder | |
You have to remember, to win the election he'll have to get more of the conservative vote. This will probably be extremely counter-productive to that. I don't think he's trying any kind of political stance, he's just telling the truth about what he believes. And if it is a political decision, it's a really dumb one that won't get him many votes he doesn't already have.
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Edit: Lia47, Thu 10 May 12, 4:09PM
Post: #647936 , Thu 10 May 12, 4:09PM |
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:: LadyKevin
:: QA5 Having the neighbours round | |
He was kinda neutral about it at the begining, but I'm proud of him now.
But if Romney wins (did you hear about him bullying that gay kid in high school? Yeah. Because of his HAIR), I'm moving to Sweden, combining it with Switzerland, and living there forever.
Who's with me?
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Post: #648188 , Fri 11 May 12, 5:20AM |
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Regardless of the whether it's a political stance or not, I'm glad to see that President Obama's personal views on marriage equality have evolved.
However, I don't think it was the smartest idea for him to declare his stance during an election year. I think that he probably felt backed into a corner after Vice President Biden declared his support, thus leading to the President doing so also. I don't think it was a move to gain support from the LGBT community, mainly because he's already had a ton of support from the community to begin with. I guess it'll just be interesting to see how things start to pan out when it gets closer to election time.
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Post: #648488 , Sat 12 May 12, 12:24PM |
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Regardless of President Obama's motives as for doing so, and I applaud him greatly, even though a lot of American's don't agree with him, surprisingly I think a lot are still going to vote for him. It's just, those conservative and Romney supporters, hopefully people will see Romney's stupidity on almost EVERY EEEEVEEERRYY topic and not vote for him, at least vote for the independent party. I could go on about Romney but I won't Not enough space...not enough time...haha...
Anywho! Yay Obama!
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Edit: Desert, Sun 13 May 12, 12:30PM
Post: #648756 , Sun 13 May 12, 12:30PM |
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I can't help but be skeptical of the whole thing. It is good that he is doing this, don't get me wrong. It is being done, and I suppose that ultimately, that is the most important thing, but because of my deep rooted cynicism and distrust of the motives of most politicians, it makes me wonder when I look at the facts:
At first he did not support it and did nothing to help the issue.
He only did this when the North Carolina issue came up (but frankly, I have a feeling that the Supreme Court will strike down that law pretty soon)
Elections are coming up, and I feel that he is ONLY doing this for votes.
Like I said, it's wonderful that this is being done, but I have to wonder why is it being done. Is it being done because Obama really thinks that it is the right thing and important for America, or is he doing it for votes?
Political motives are important because the motives determine how long a good measure will last, and how much support it will get. But that's just me, I'm very cynical when it comes to politicians.
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Post: #648767 , Sun 13 May 12, 1:39PM |
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