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:: EdguyFan
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So today I was sitting with my friends and we were talking about the Day of Silence. (Which I don't think will help at all, but I won't get in to that) I'm not out to my friends, nor will I ever will be, because 95% of them are homophobic. So anyway, we were talking and one of them was like "Most people who say they're gay aren't actually gay, they just want to be different."

He continued to talk about being gay as if it were some sort of religion, and that a lot of people "trick" themselves into thinking they are gay. And in my head, I was like "What the F*** are you talking about!" But of course I calmly defended it and then laughed it off in order to keep up my Straight act, but inside I was just so pissed at him, even though he's one of my best friends. I wish there was just some way I could explain to him that a guy liking a guy is the exact same as a guy liking a girl, and he doesn't have to worry about it because he isn't gay.

What are your thoughts/comments on this situation?
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  Post: #641378 Link to this post, Fri 20 Apr 12, 7:14PM
:: Tiara
:: QA9 Grand Elder
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Just respect his opinion. It's upsetting when a friend thinks something that is so obviously incorrect, but of he thinks that then there's no fool proof way to change his mind.

Sexuality is like food. Some people like pizza, and some people like fish and chips. But you don't have to be Italian to like pizza and you don't have to be British to like fish and chips. It's just the taste you have as a person.

You don't have to be a boy to like a girl and you don't have to be a girl to like a boy. It's just what you're into as a person.
  Post: #641381 Link to this post, Fri 20 Apr 12, 7:31PM
:: Merovingian
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If you're not out, then I don't see much you can do about it. People like that are often quick to accuse anyone defending homosexuals as being gay, even if they are straight.

When I hear people spout absolute bullshit, as if garbage were literally coming out of their mouth, I tend to just tune it out because sitting there arguing with someone who thinks that way is probably not going to go well. However, one can't always be so quick to assume that they'll never change. A lot of people truly are ignorant and are saying things because they really don't know. I've met people like that who turned out not to be homophobic or stupid; they just honestly didn't know any better. I am not one to refuse an opportunity to educate someone, but only if I think it will be worthwhile. This person sounds ignorant, but not hateful. Hateful people are less likely to be changed. Ignorance can be remedied.

However, as you said, if you're in the closet, it might be hard to express your opinion without being accused of being gay. (I've been there).
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  Edit: Merovingian, Fri 20 Apr 12, 7:40PM
Post: #641382 Link to this post, Fri 20 Apr 12, 7:38PM
:: EdguyFan
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Thanks for the positive responses, I think I just needed to rant xD
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  Post: #641393 Link to this post, Fri 20 Apr 12, 8:22PM
:: Charlespryguy
:: QA3 Getting cosy
my mother does the same thing, as if being gay in hicksville(nickname) texas is sooooo great
  Post: #641400 Link to this post, Fri 20 Apr 12, 9:24PM
:: blacksummer
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Wtf. I am gay and that is who I am. To be honest if I was a boy I would be gay too. Gay is just part of me. I don't think it would matter what gender I was because I think I'd be gay no matter what. It's part of my genes or brain wiring or whatever. I'm not looking for attention. If I was looking for attention I'd just shout: "I'M GAY!!!" all over the place. My mum just tried to tell me this guy was cute. Ugh. I'm NOT into boys, mum! X( I haven't officially come out to her yet but ugh!!! It's so annoying!
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  Post: #641403 Link to this post, Fri 20 Apr 12, 9:37PM
:: weeirdwith2es
:: QA8 High Householder
My dad says that exact quote in the thread title, but his reasoning is that "most people who think they're gay just had one or two bad relationships with the opposite sex, so they stay away from them for good" or "they want an excuse to divorce their spouse". -_- He has a bad history with gay people, but I won't get into that right now.
  Post: #641453 Link to this post, Sat 21 Apr 12, 12:15AM
:: Diesel
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being gay isnt a choice i laugh at ignorant pepole who think it is its like saying being straightis a choice same with being bi ur just born thst way i will never come out and ill continue to hate myself for being bi till i die
  Post: #641536 Link to this post, Sat 21 Apr 12, 3:34AM
:: Xeffy
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the extent people go to, to explain homosexuality baffles me.
  Post: #641542 Link to this post, Sat 21 Apr 12, 4:05AM
:: EdguyFan
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Cameron, don't hate yourself for being bi. Always be proud of yourself, no matter what someone might say. I know it sounds corny, but its true. Bi pride!

And honestly I don't think there is a way to explain why someone is gay. Its just the way they were born.
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  Post: #641554 Link to this post, Sat 21 Apr 12, 4:43AM
:: azalight90
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That is just wrong. I hate it when people say that people who say they are gay are only looking for attention.

I am gay and always will be. I do not look for attention.

Look at this :
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7456588.stm
 New Window


It proves that being gay is not a choice. Even if it is not why people are not gay it proves it is not a choice.
  Post: #641557 Link to this post, Sat 21 Apr 12, 5:03AM
:: Meganwho?-ohme
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i dnt understand how people that are not gay think they know more about gayness then the actual gay people.
  Post: #641564 Link to this post, Sat 21 Apr 12, 5:35AM
:: steven1345
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^ This.
  Post: #641573 Link to this post, Sat 21 Apr 12, 8:26AM
:: back2back
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It is a narrow minded opinion, but he isnt gay I wouldnt expect him to understand :/ Everyone who is gay isnt doing it for attention, some people claim being bisexual (girls mostly, never witnessed boys) whether thats for attention or whatever WHO KNOWS!

Either way, it is not anyones place to say someone if faking their sexuality or doing so for attention. If he means by 'gays' adressing boys, then i would have to also disagree! Why would anyone pretend to be gay and go through some of the horrors that we do as a community just for 'attention'....

Either way, his opinion is his opinion... Theres nothing you can do (seen as you are not out)
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  Post: #643216 Link to this post, Wed 25 Apr 12, 6:45PM
:: CarLoverCL55
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It never fails to amaze me, the lengths straight people will go to to explain homosexuality. If we can accept the fact that we were born this way, why can't they?! All the stupid reasoning: overbearing mother, bad straight relationships, exposure to gay material at a young age, etc. It's ridiculous!
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  Post: #643221 Link to this post, Wed 25 Apr 12, 6:59PM
:: WiteWulfiGurl
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Oh dude! Don't be such a freaking moron! (I'm talking to you friend not you) tell him that if he's so brilliant then why doesn't he try it! Tell him to pre tent to be gay or bi and see if he still thinks we are LGBT for attention!
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  Post: #643280 Link to this post, Wed 25 Apr 12, 9:30PM
:: dragoonlove
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My friends were pretty bad in High School. Say stuff like, "Dicks and asses just don't mix, who could be that f***** up?", inside I was just like 'Screw You man', and later on that dude came out of the closet. Who knows why that guy is being such a prick, maybe you never will.

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  Post: #643286 Link to this post, Wed 25 Apr 12, 9:43PM
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