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Topic: Trans: would you change your mind instead body?
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So, the real problem with GID is only simplified to we have the wrong body... The true problem is out bodies and minds don't match. We aren't really sure which one is wrong... it's just that it's infinitely easier to change your body than to change your mind.
So my question is... if you could take a pill or under go an operation to change your mind to match your body... would you do it?
I'm not talking about one of those BS "pray the gay away" or some bogus hypnosis... I mean if this was an actual cure. Would you? Or would you prefer the transitioning?
I honestly am wondering... there are days when I know I would just take the pill... other days I want nothing more than to look pretty in a dress and heals...
Where my shame gland should be, there is a second awesome gland.
Don't make me practice my interior decorating on your internal organs o.O
The sky isn't the limit, it's a suggestion.
I wish I was eccentric *sigh* unfortunately I'm too crazy for euphemisms.
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Post: #533876  , Thu 28 Jul 11, 4:03AM |
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My initial reaction--absolutely not. I want to transition, I need to transition. I need to be male. But now I'm thinking. I don't know. I don't know what it's like to really feel female. And changing my mind also scares me a lot. What if it takes away important parts of who I am? While taking a pill to change my mind would be a lot easier than stabbing myself with a needle every other week, I honestly don't know if I could do it. I'd be too afraid of losing myself.
"Your life is your life. Don't let it be clubbed into dank submission." --Charles Bukowski, "The Laughing Heart"
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Edit: CRASSrebel, Thu 28 Jul 11, 4:08AM
Post: #533877 , Thu 28 Jul 11, 4:08AM |
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I'm not trans, but I feel like changing your mind and changing your body are along the same lines. You have the ability to change your body to match what your mind wants and is, but if you take a pill, it's not changing who you are and I don't think it would change who you are, it would just make your body and mind match up.
~No one can make you feel inferior without your consent~
~We do what is heroic simply because it is needed~
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Post: #533922 , Thu 28 Jul 11, 6:08AM |
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:: kg55
:: QA5 Having the neighbours round | |
Honestly, yes. I mean I wish I could say no, that I wouldn't want to change who I was but it would be nice, to actually feel like I fit my body for once.
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Post: #533925 , Thu 28 Jul 11, 6:19AM |
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Nope. It's too much fun being trans. (;
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Post: #533934 , Thu 28 Jul 11, 6:41AM |
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No way! Girls are weird, I'd never want to be like one (mentally) (sorry MtFs). I love being trans!
No matter gay, straight or bi,
Lesbian, transgendered life,
I'm on the right track,
Baby, I was born to survive!
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Post: #533936 , Thu 28 Jul 11, 7:04AM |
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i spent years trying to be someone i wasn't because my body was one way.
and now that i finally figured out who i am and how to except myself there is no way i would want my mind to fit my male body.
its just not who i am. changing my brain would in essence change who i am as a person and the real Jamie would cease to exist.
so to answer the question, when i was younger and had no idea what to feel or who i was i might take the pill but now that i figured everything out, there is no chance i would change.
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Post: #534011 , Thu 28 Jul 11, 3:28PM |
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I'm not trans but if I were I'd have to agree with Jamie and Jordan. Changing my body is one thing, but changing my mind would change who I am. Something so basic as gender identity would change so many things with it. It would change your mannerisms, your hobbies, so many things. And that thought scares me.
It is better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all
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Post: #534013 , Thu 28 Jul 11, 3:42PM |
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:: darkless
:: QA7 Taking responsibility | |
I couldn't change my mind, that seems way too Orwellian, it reminds me of Room 101 in a way in 1984. It's killing part of who you are, and making you something you are not, and I think it's no different than someone changing their sexuality. Even if it's possible to change someone's sexuality or subconscious gender, doing so by means of changing their mind is in my view entirely wrong.
"Be who you are and say how you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."-Dr.Seuss
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Post: #534029 , Thu 28 Jul 11, 4:55PM |
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@Ashley
most trans are unfortunate to be stuck with mannerisms of their body not their mind, so it really wouldn't change that much.
Where my shame gland should be, there is a second awesome gland.
Don't make me practice my interior decorating on your internal organs o.O
The sky isn't the limit, it's a suggestion.
I wish I was eccentric *sigh* unfortunately I'm too crazy for euphemisms.
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Post: #534046 , Thu 28 Jul 11, 6:16PM |
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I feel like I have absolutely no right to post here because I am not, in fact, trans. However, I do want to offer an opinion and see how people respond:
You shouldn't be afraid of somehow losing yourself by undergoing this method. If anything, aren't you preserving who you currently are? Also, a recurring worry seems to be that you're somehow going to regret the decision because you currently "want/need" to be male/female, and you aren't going to be sufficing that need by changing your mind. However, I attest that you wouldn't feel any regret at all—you'd no longer understand why you ever even felt compelled to change your body.
LIKE IN THE MATRIX WHEN THE ORACLE TURNS INTO AGENT SMITH 8D. Sorry, random comparison xD But yes, it actually is kind of like that. In movies (because that's the only place this ever happens, really), when someone turns into something else (Oracle -> Agent Smith, Human -> Zombie, that crazy bitch from x-Men Last Stand -> ... that crazy bitch from x-Men last stand xD), the people don't regret the transformation.
And that's exactly what it is, a transformation! You're still transitioning... just your mind. I now feel compelled to quote Albus Dumbledore:
“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?”
"I am reminded of a colleague who reiterated 'all my homosexual patients are quite sick'—to which I finally replied 'so are all my heterosexual patients'." -Ernest van den Haag, psychotherapist
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Edit: winnersmw, Thu 28 Jul 11, 8:26PM
Post: #534091 , Thu 28 Jul 11, 8:24PM |
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good response shawn... that's actually kinda the way I was thinking it xD
Where my shame gland should be, there is a second awesome gland.
Don't make me practice my interior decorating on your internal organs o.O
The sky isn't the limit, it's a suggestion.
I wish I was eccentric *sigh* unfortunately I'm too crazy for euphemisms.
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Post: #534255 , Fri 29 Jul 11, 3:55AM |
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I see your point, and I know I wouldn't regret it after the fact, and probably wouldn't think the same way either, but I still feel like I'd be terrified of going into it because there are parts about me and the way I think because I am male-identified that I would be afraid of losing.
"Your life is your life. Don't let it be clubbed into dank submission." --Charles Bukowski, "The Laughing Heart"
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Post: #534261 , Fri 29 Jul 11, 4:11AM |
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@jordan...
well after this pill you could just be a very masculine female?
Also, I'm not trying to persuade anyone here that this should be studied and looked into... just trying to discuss it.
Where my shame gland should be, there is a second awesome gland.
Don't make me practice my interior decorating on your internal organs o.O
The sky isn't the limit, it's a suggestion.
I wish I was eccentric *sigh* unfortunately I'm too crazy for euphemisms.
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Post: #534311 , Fri 29 Jul 11, 7:04AM |
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I feel as though I could never do that. I'm more of a trooper than an easy way out kinda guy.
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Post: #534532 , Sat 30 Jul 11, 2:27AM |
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:: Twillz
:: QA10 Community God | |
I...am terrified of surgery. So, I think I would opt for the pill. But, I wouldn't really want to. I'd be seriously conflicted. I'd rather transition, but I'm so afraid of surgery...but eventually I'd end up just doing the easier of the two because it WOULD be easier, and I'd take the pill. Then I'd probably hate myself for the rest of my life, because I like adventure, and transition=adventure...
I'd basically be fucked either way xD
"Happiness can be found even in the darkest of times...if one only remembers to turn on the lights" ~Albus Dumbledore |
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Post: #611703 , Sun 29 Jan 12, 6:11PM |
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I'm terrified of needles and surgery. but then again with the pill id be terrified of losing who i really am. Though i get once you transform you don't regret it but i would be scared to even try.
Since i was young i always wanted to be a man. I always wished that i was born a boy. I always acted and dressed as one. so when i contemplated taking the pill. Ill feel like I'm giving up who i really am.
I'm a man in a woman's body. I'm confused as to what I am Yet I'm proud! Though only in the closet. Be true to yourself, that is all that matters!
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Post: #611710 , Sun 29 Jan 12, 6:33PM |
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:: Lime
:: QA10 Community God | |
If I were to take this pill, I would not be changing my mind but my whole personality. Everything that I am today would change when my mind changes, and that would leave me feeling lost and unsure of who I am. What I have accomplished in the 19 years of my life would be worth nothing to me as I did that when I was someone else and not who I am.
I know that I was born in the wrong body, that was evident from the age of 5 years old. As I developed and grew I grew as a male, I grew as a male despite my sex being something otherwise. So whilst I could change my mind, I would not be developed as a female or as the person this pill would change me into.
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