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Topic: Being hurt for being LGBTQ etc
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I tried searching the forums, and didn't find anything.
My curiosity to everyone...
Have you ever been attacked, verbally, physically, not extremely or extremely by people because you were "gay" (lgbtq)?
It's been on my mind a lot lately, because my biggest fear is that my girlfriend and I will be somewhere and someone would attack us. My high school was slightly anti-lgbtq, so at dances the kids had a tendency to throw half eaten fruit or things at me, push me around, or just call out vulgarity. During the day though, they would still throw things at me, trip me down stairs, and the worst happened when someone shoved my head into a door.
So yeah...is it common to be hurt for our lifestyles, or no?
Last breaths are like kisses...you will never have enough
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Post: #337718 , Tue 9 Feb 10, 1:40AM |
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oh gosh...this is a HUGE topic but i believe, A LOT of people in the LGBT commmunity will get persecuted for the people they love, and it's extremely sad. oh and, about your situation, it's not as bad as it used to be, but you should talk to a teacher or principal or counselor because it's considered a hate crime now. and it shouldn't happen. If you google Lawrence King. This 15 year old was actually killed for his orientation. Most of us will get abused whether it be physically, verbally, or emotionally and it could be from teachers, parents, siblings, friends, or students. Even friends that joke around still hurt. That is why i think our community is the strongest because there are so many strong people here but if the people within the community fight, we're no better than right wing jesus freaks who think we're all going to burn in hell. As long as we support each other, there's nothing to be afraid of, but obviously you have to be careful because it's still "dangerous" to be "different" in the world today. it sucks but we have to move on. :] sorry it's long
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Edit: NotListening, Tue 9 Feb 10, 1:53AM
Post: #337720 , Tue 9 Feb 10, 1:47AM |
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:: lena
:: QA9 Grand Elder | |
This is defiantly not normal. There's not many lgbtq kids at my school, but those who are don't get too much crap. It never gets physically violent or anything. You should talk to someone, because abuse is not okay and it needs to stop right now.
I've been thinking about hell, and it's got to be a much nicer place than heaven... all the gay men are down there. You KNOW it's well decorated.
If being gay is a disease, lets all call in queer to work. "Sorry, cannot come to work today, still queer".
Real Lord of the Rings fans know it's not a trilogy.
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Post: #337722 , Tue 9 Feb 10, 1:49AM |
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:: ericlee
:: QA7 Taking responsibility | |
I have for sure. I have been threatened to be killed for being a "nigger queer". it wasn't pretty. I have been cussed at and almost fought. I have lost tons of friends over it and it has put me into depression but glad i am out and glad that i don't care what other people think about me anymore.
Eric Warner
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Post: #337725 , Tue 9 Feb 10, 1:56AM |
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Maybe I didn't specify, but the stuff that happened to me happened years ago. I'm in college and in a completely different state now, but I can't shake the fear that one day my girlfriend and I will be walking around and get hurt. It's probably irrational, but yeahs. I was just curious because I know that only two of my lgbtq friends up here have had anything happen to them. It's really accepting where I currently am, so I'm finding it weird.
Last breaths are like kisses...you will never have enough
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Post: #337897 , Tue 9 Feb 10, 3:32PM |
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I've been verbally abused a lot.
Simply 'gay' and 'fag.' But, you know, it hurts when the only name you get called is 'the gay kid.'
My heart stretches out to all of you. I know what it's like.
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Post: #337918 , Tue 9 Feb 10, 6:15PM |
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:: Sophita
:: QA7 Taking responsibility | |
Yup. Me and my girlfriend were sitting in a park when she was done in work, then we saw a gang of girls. We moved when we saw them coming towards us, and they just followed us. As we tried to leave they kept following us, saying stuff, and then we tried to make a run for it when we saw a taxi. One of them grabbed my girlfriend and hit her, I was trying to pull her in the taxi and only managed to do so by kicking one of them. All because they saw us sitting together...they were probably looking for a fight anyway like.
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Post: #337941 , Tue 9 Feb 10, 8:11PM |
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Can't say I've ever been physically hurt for this...
But my girl and I have been kicked out of a few coffee shops for being "too affectionate." We weren't even doing anything. I think all she did was put her head on my shoulder and then we had to go. It's stupid that we get discriminated against for loving people of the same gender. Makes me angry >_<
Please know I'll never run away without you in my arms.
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Post: #337943 , Tue 9 Feb 10, 8:15PM |
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First time I was ever physically attacked was in 7th grade in drama class. Me and my friend were working on a skit and out of no where all the other kids started pushing us around and hit us a few times then shoved us in a box. The entire time they were calling us fags and other things I cant say here. We were stuck in there for a few hours until the janitor got us out. The worst part of what happened wasn't what the kids did but that the teacher watched and didn't do anything. That event is why Ive only come out to a few people.
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Post: #338924 , Thu 11 Feb 10, 4:13AM |
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:: imani
:: QA7 Taking responsibility | |
Most people dont screw with me at school, but i have been discriminated against.
I have been asked to leave two churches, denied entrance to two schools and I cant do anything over night any more.
9 months out
8 months therapy
2 month full time (besides school)
In 2-4, hormones.
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Post: #338934 , Thu 11 Feb 10, 4:22AM |
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It's a bit of a long post, but if you're interested in a 'discriminated-against takes no shit and WINS' story by all means read on...mind you, this isn't some fictional or sensationalized story that I invented, this happened. I certainly hope that my determination inspires (or, at least, doesn't disgust) you. What happened here is considered illegal, but I've already served my time for this, amongst other things I was caught up in. So, on with the inspirational story:
Well, during my junior year (the year I got expelled from two different high schools) I was a 'player' in the local (my city, the surrounding five cities, and Boston) cocaine (and, to a lesser extent, heroin) trade (I started picking up 8 ounces every 5 days the November prior, and was still going hard), as some of you know. I was living 'the life'; I had all of the money I could possibly ever spend and some major investments in Apple, Raytheon, and Google, as well as savings bonds and two 5-year CD's (totaling over $208,500) and a mutual fund (all of which I still have today, aside from the mutual fund, my investment in which I have since liquidated) and my boyfriend and I were together, happy as could be; my things were his things, we bought and did whatever we wanted, and everyone knew we were together from the high school that we went to. Well, there was this one kid, whose name I shan't reveal (we'll call him R.G.), who was looking to buy one and a half ounces from me. I didn't believe him (due to the fact that he sold only weed hitherto), so I told my dealer to wait in his car while we did the deal at his house; if anything went wrong, my boyfriend would signal him (my dealer's moniker was "psycho", a no-nonsense dealer who had/has strong affiliations with the MS 13), and he would come and help me take care of things.
Well, it was a set-up, and R.G. didn't have a penny on him. So I let him think that he was gonna get away with taking my coke, and I hit "call" twice on my phone while it was in my coat pocket, which called my boyfriend (that was the established signal that something had gone wrong). Psycho came in through the door I had left cracked and saved the day; he beat the kid pretty bad in the process (after all, my coke was technically psycho's coke because it was on consignment...when it came to his livelihood, he did NOT fuck around). My boyfriend and I left and shortly thereafter psycho did too. I didn't expect any retaliation, but...there was this park across the street from the high school I had gone to where my friends, boyfriend, and I hung out and smoked every day before and after school (and everyone knew this); it was the advertised spot to buy coke and heroin. So after one of our mutual friends left one Thursday my b.f. and I were just talking and having a cigarette; next thing we know a Dodge Charger and a Chrysler 300 pull up and 8 people get out (mostly people from our school's football team). At this point I had no fear because I had dealt some dope to them before. They were mostly heroin fiends (and I didn't have any cash or drugs but a little bit of bud on me anyway) so I figured I'd stay and fight before we'd run away (we were 'tough', but I had a big ego mainly because of who my connections were [it is in the best interests of the bigger-time distributors to keep the people that they sell to protected, so that the cash flow is never interrupted – most drug dealers aren't the stereotypical brainless fiends that they're normally portrayed as; it's a business, like any other, and some of them actually have a great 'business sense']; but I still am of the school of thought that by backing down or cowering away, you're just fortifying the aggressor's ego, and that's a fact).
So R.G. (now in a cast and with a neck brace on, lol) casually walks up to me and says "I still want that coke", upon which I said "do I have to call my boy again and have him call his bosses?" So this kid Nick rushes me with this other kid I had never seen before and get this other kid we'll call “Brandon” to hold me down; the imbecile ringleader who tried to rob me gets rope out of his car and tie me to the little jungle gym-thing that they have there; at this point I'm scared for my boyfriend's sake because I know he's ballsy and would get his ass beat before he'd ever run. To make a long and terribly graphic story short, they made me watch the man who was, at the time, the love of my life get beaten so badly that he was in the hospital for quite a stretch of time with a collapsed lung, a broken leg, a broken arm, three broken ribs, and four dislocated discs in his back while they were all yelling things like "fucking faggot" and shit like that.
That made me hate bigots with a passion; they absolutely massacred him, I'll never forget it. They didn't touch me because they figured that my dealer would care more about it if they did (wrong assumption; my friends were his friends, and my best interests were his best interests [because at the amount of money I was bringing in for him weekly on cocaine and heroin alone were enough to pay all of his bills]), but they absolutely massacred him, and I felt so bad. It took him 7 months to fully recover...but our love was stronger than ever; I visited him every day in the hospital (pretty much until visiting hours were over), put my business on hold for five days and everything (which, at the time, was unheard of). Two nights after this happened I promised my boyfriend that he wouldn't be the only one in the hospital.
What these goons didn't know is that I either knew-of, personally knew, or was good friends with every (major) local bud and heroin dealer in the neighboring five cities (these kids were mostly heroin addicts from one of the larger neighboring cities). So, I hatched a plan to lure them in with their vice like the little insignificant fish that they were; I had this 35-year-old dope dealer Dave (that I bought from whenever psycho's shit wasn't on point with that white-ish tan-ish dope) set them up (it was a lot easier because he was, at the time, very, very good friends with psycho); he lured Nick and Brandon to his house by saying he didn't have any brown with him and, when they got there, he held both of them at gunpoint while psycho drove me there. I don't want to go into great detail as to what we did with them, but, I assure you that my boyfriend was, indeed, not the only one in the hospital. I stayed in the room with the two imbeciles tied to chairs while psycho and Dave were in the next room purposely talking loudly about killing them and discussing how they were going to dispose of the bodies (despite the fact that they had no intention of killing them). I witnessed the two being tortured psychologically at first, and, at great anticipation, physically and, as sociopathic as it may sound, they deserved it and I loved the revenge (I'm sure you would too, if you had been in my situation).
The fool who tried to rob me apologized to my boyfriend's face because psycho threatened worse to him and his family, he said "I'm big time motherfucker, more connected than you'll ever be, I can make your whole family disappear and no one would ever even question it."; then he told me that he said: "Give these two any more trouble and I promise I'll make it happen"...it put a big smile on my boyfriend's face knowing that what he had to endure wasn't in vain. After all, why would anyone who was physically attacked or intimidated put up with it or, worse yet (for people known to have nefarious connections to the 'drug world', at least), go to the police? Where I'm from, when you have a problem with someone, you fight it out. It my be primitive, but, sure enough, we were never troubled again; hell, we never so much as got a dirty look after that point.
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Post: #339460 , Fri 12 Feb 10, 1:47AM |
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I think every LGBTQ person has been, or some point in their life, be verbally or physically abused. That's not to scare people, but it's the truth. Yes, I have been verbally abused by many people. I have been called every name in the book, because someone came out for me. It's nothing really to be afraid of. Like I said, everyone gets verbally abused.
I've never been physically abused, but I think it is a scary thing and it's one of those things that gay people are very scared of. If you think someone is going to hurt you I would avoid them, etc. Just try to have a good time and if something seems wrong, either talk to someone about it or just avoid the situation at all cause
"Hold out for the ones you know will love you. Hide out for the ones you know will love you, you, you too"-
Tegan and Sara, Dark Come Soon
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Post: #339470 , Fri 12 Feb 10, 2:08AM |
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I'm not afraid; if someone wants to fight me for being me, I invite them to do so. I'm not someone with connections anymore (though I still have people that I used to buy from that I can call upon if I need them) but I can still fight. Backing down just feeds their ego and confirms their misconception that all homosexuals are "pansies".
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Post: #339478 , Fri 12 Feb 10, 2:35AM |
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being trans i get it a lot, i wrote a blog about it " i know what its like to want to die"
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Post: #339498 , Fri 12 Feb 10, 3:35AM |
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:: KitK
:: QA5 Having the neighbours round | |
I've been hurt quite a bit...beat up...whatever...but the s*xual assault was the worst...
Things get damaged
Things get broken
I thought we'd manage
But words left unspoken
Left us so brittle
There was so little left to give
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Post: #339517 , Fri 12 Feb 10, 4:00AM |
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